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Comments on "On the Street.... Ninth Ave., NYC"
I am so tired of this look... come on!!!! absolutely no interest whatsover to wearing a suit too short in the name of fashion... ridiculous... grow up... get a well-tailored suit... nothing breathes more chic... this kind of Browne suits just makes you look too hard... what is the next trend? Overlong trousers and sleeves... I will stick with my perfectly tailored suits and continue laughing at these guys :)
i'm not sure why i understand thomas browne's suits to be so in style. is it just because the cut is unique?
also: wasn't this man freezing?!
I am a very traditional dresser Luciano Barbera is the quintessential well dressed man in my opinion having that said there is something about this style that I like very much and while I would never wear it and I am honestly surprised by the use of the ankle socks the fit is fantastic and the shorter lengths on the sleeves and trousers are while maybe a bit extreme here attractive on men with a long lean body type
Simply put:
His pants are too short.
This image immediately brought the Kinks 60's song "Dedicated Follower of Fashion" to mind.
This look is now oversold, and its time to move on.
He looks a little bit lost! I like the shot but not what he's wearing...
As the old philosopher Hegel said, as soon as a fashion becomes a fad, it turns ridiculous.
Loving his "allure"
That is so weird, I like it.
this screams trying to hard. and that briefcase does not go with the whole thom browne look at all. maybe that explains the unsure look on his face. nice fitting shoulders though.
i agree & disagree with the thombrowne phenom. i'm 6'3" and slim-when i tried on one of his suits a couple of seasons back i felt like an idiot and looked like a clown. i was sure that thombrowne would soon be discovered as a fraud in an 'emperor has no clothes' unmasking. however, what thombrowne has done brilliantly is make designers and consumers think differently about fit. everyone from bananarepublic to dior is offering slimmer fits, smaller arm-holes, shorter inseams; and men and men's fashion are much better as a result. it's simple and severe, which perhaps is fitting in these economic times. so, while i won't be wearing thombrowne, i am reaping the benefits of his experimentations in a more subtle, 'grown-up' way.
A typical dutch look, very useful in case the dykes break.
I appreciate the influence that Thom Browne has had on men's fashion, but I agree.... the look is so far from chic at this point. I'm sure that you will soon enough find Browne inspired trends at Target. It was great while it lasted, but it is time for something new.
I think it takes courage to wear a Browne suit, or a suit in that style, if you work outside the field of fashion. And it looks sharp as.
Not liking this look!
Is he afraid that his trousers get wet? Global warming strikes back?
Anyway, I do not like this fashion-style. I prefer the classical look. Tastes differ :)
Maybe if he was wearing socks, it is winter.
Thom Browne suits, I feel like they work better as a statement of fitted is better but he just is using the too small look to make a statement. Maybe a better look for summer?
it was so good...until i saw the feet. then, i looked closely at the man's expression (it's no insult to his face) and i just started to laugh. it looks like he is in pain..or maybe he IS cold.
The suit reflects the new way the business man must wade through the shitty economy. Perhaps the suit alla juvenile trepidation will serve him well.
Thom Browne's confections are fit only for the sort of modern man-child who collects Japanese action figures. Ludicrous.
this guy works for thom browne anyway! he's thom's right hand man.
also just so you haters know that is incredibly well tailored suit made by oxxford. which is probably better than the rags in your closet.
i dont support the thom look but i do give credit where credit is due
Ankle socks = no no
The thing I hate more than these suits are the clunky shoes. Almost all of men's shoes need to be thrown in a pit and set on fire.
This man has made "a look", "his look". Brilliantly!!!
I think it may be time to consider something new, you can own whatever style you can stand for owning. Not trendy but the power of malleable style.
Well Done.
are those sneakers and no socks sabotaging an otherwise elegant look?
A silly look in an attempt to be different. He can have his flood pants, I'll stand in the corner and smoke with Cary Grant.
I think as long as the suit doesn't wear you. He look nice never the less, but through his facial expression doesn't look happy. You can't take yourself too seriously while sporting a look like this.
i like thom browne suit. It's fit on this guy!! amazing!
Nice that he's different but I still find a well fitted suit to my taste. Of course not everyone needs to look like what I think they should so I do applaud his difference! By the way are those gym socks?
wow its freezing outside and this man has courage. love the look. im all about it. i need a suit that fits a woman correctly but with this shrunken look. lovely.
Did perhaps he mistake his son's trousers for his own? If there are hand-me-downs, perhaps this is a hand-me-up?
I like it. I think the rest of the style of his outfit compensates from the ankle basher pants. Which can be fun with formal outfit it shows personality.
Here we have a great example of why "high style" doesn't necessarily mean "good style". This is a very unattractive look IMO. However, if you're young and not worried about all that "looking like a grown MAN" business, this might be the suit for you.
Oh, that pesky Thom Brown.
The look is certainly debatable. There's something about it I do like though, which I can't pin point, but either way if I were to wear my pants like that, it would be strictly during the peak of summer, and not with a suit.
I completely agree with the previous comments. Thom Browne suits are made for little boys. Dress like a man.
I admire his braveness! His suit is perfectly tailored (...well at least the top half of the suit.) We need more people like this man in our society, he is a trendsetter and not a follower. Touche!
Never will date a man wearing his trousers in this way.
This is just trying too hard but without success. The trousers are just too short.
i personally love this look. its hilarious and ridiculous, which i sometimes think is missing from menswear. its much more subtle than someone like jeremy scott or someone, and Browne finds a way to put that humor into the classic, traditional suit. also, he looks like a nerd. a well dressed nerd. hilarious. well done.
if i was a serial killer i would dress in Tom Browne and carry terrible things in that samsonite.
There is need to imply thrift these days...
Oh...lighten up. He looks like someone worth talking to. Maybe you should stick with your "perfectly tailored suits" while this guy keeps it interesting.
maybe he can't afford to get new pair of trousers because of the recession we have right now....
this fellow gets his hair cut at the salon where i work. and i will say, every time i see him, he is always very well dressed.
i think his expression matches his ankles perfectly. it's a fabulous portrait, whether you like the cut or not. you can feel the cold scalding his neck, biting his socks.
looove it.
The style is so too much a caricature-- it's a shame, because Thom Browne really is a truly amazing tailor. This is the perfect case of the fashion victim shouting to everyone: "But it's Thom Browne! It's Margiela! It's Comme!... Just because one's wearing the cool designer, doesn't make the wearer any more stylish or any more an individual.
On a positive note, your eye is so playful Sir: The way the briefcase perfectly divides the seemingly conservative top half from the idiosyncratic bottom half is just such an ingenious perspective-- almost surreal.
PLO
Here in Germany it has begun to snow and in nyc the peoples arent wearing socks. whats going on??? ;-))
Because this style of suit is so specific, the hard briefcase and the ankle socks take away from the suit. The shoes may work better with no-show peds, otherwise there are more refined shoes out there. Let the suit shine on it's own.
i've always liked the upper half of t browne suits, but the exposed ankles need to go. doesn't it remind you of hobbits?
I have to agree that the short pants style is just plain silly - especially as a tall man I know that I look ridiculous if my pants aren't long enough - why do people search this out?
i love thom brown suits but i like the wear them in a normal fahion and it looks good i to dont understand the short pants it looks silly even on mr brown he is to dumpy
Actually, I really like the thom browne look. I think the silhouette is very flattering if you have the right body type. I see the proportions as questioning conventional definitions of masculinity.
When I worked at an investment bank this summer, some managing directors, who had the requisite seniority (and balls), wore thom browne in an ultra-conservative work environment. I thought it was very refreshing to see the short, fitted suit where boxiness and wide hermes ties are ubiquitous.
like David Bowie
Is he wearing rubber soled shoes with a Thom Browne suit? Talk about a juxtaposition . . .
While I agree that the look has become tiresome, I still prefer this look to the neo-Con coat 1 or 2 sizes too big with sloppy pleated trousers.
I agree with the previous two posts--this just looks silly!
I like the cut of his coat, but i feel the pants are too short if he had shown some sock it would be fine but his whole ankle is a bit excessive.
well...he's got the build for it, and it DOES look good on him.
that being said it's too dang COLD for that *&$#@! right now and IMHO, that suit would be better worn april-early september.
a bit of a fashion faux paus for this time of year.
I never liked this look. The jacket does look more casual but the short pants always kill it for me. Big surprise that Thom Browne got designer of the year in GQ.
Agnelli sez "enougha witha the higha-waters or you-a gonna getta sicka." Hey, we are touto sicka of thissa stuff.
As Oscar Wilde said...
"Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months."
Basically, we say, "I know that this is really ugly, but we have a few months where we can do this style, and it's totally OK"
We're reaching an era of post-fashion. This blog has often captured the newly re-discovered philosophy of individual style, as opposed to "fashion".
Your clothing plays with symmetry and contrast to create an silhouette and an image. The goal is individual. It can be beauty (however you define it), or it can be iconoclasm.
I'm not impressed by every person who throws on the latest gladiator heels, or short dress pants. For this guy, the pants are completely out-of-sync with the rest of him. From his knees up, he says "serious!". The short socks say that he really wants to show his ankles, but hates to go sock-less. How poseur is that?
Switch his shoes for some brown wingtips. Switch his socks for an interesting argyle. Switch out his pocket square and tie for something brighter and warmer, and switch his shirt to something a little more fun, say tattersall. Voila! (or just wear properly lenghted pants)
brrrr
see what you've done sart! you've turned average folks into bitchy fashion critiques.
not loving the whole uber-geek thing. i'm sure thom browne's a perfectly nice fellow, but ....
I think he looks great in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way. I'm sure he can do the "traditional" tailored suit if he wanted to. That's not what he's he's going for here--or so I think! I think this is geek chic at it's finest. With that being said, this look is nothing original or innovative.
As for the "painful" look on his face...it looks as though the sun is shining in his eyes. Give the guy a break!
Brilliantly framed.
after a while "well tailored", "classical" suits look boring and all the same. this on the other hand is playful and fun. this is the guy i would talk to at a party for sure, not one of the guys dressed like undertakers.
also it is a stunning shot.
He really should take down his cuffs in this weather.
He really should have done his business before he left his apartment for work. Poor guy. Looks unhappy :(
hmm what an interesting looking man.
No! No! NO! I suspect Thom Browne's influence, but Browne's stuff always looks like a funny thing happened on the way from the dry cleaners.
i like the contrast between the seriousness of the top and the odness below the belt..i wonder who his employer is....reminds me of that movie "falling down"
The no-sock look will always conjure the thought of how smelly his shoes must be. So, so off-putting.
While I love a nicely tailored suit, I think these trousers are simply too short, especially for this time of year. Maybe I would appreciate this look better if it were springtime...
Not for me.....I'm 6'3" and 235lbs. This would look completely silly on me. However, I can see how a slender guy like this can pull it off. More power to him.
As a portrait, I like this a lot. It's beautiful in that it's possible to feel (or imagine?) his grim sense of determination, the knowingness that Monday is going to suck, but he has to "do it" anyway. And the brief case is so mysterious! Maybe the most subversive thing this guy gets do most days is wear his pants 3" shorter than most folks; maybe it's his way of sticking it to the man :) I love how much fashion can suggest and confuse and provoke! Stephanie
Regardless of how you like the look:
1) he IS wearing socks
2) Thom Browne wears a dark athletic sock with his suit.
Thom Browne has made a large impact on men's clothing, and he isn't going away as easily as many trends.
I think this is a great pic.. you really have a great eye + fortuitous timing, Sart.
whether his style is good or bad, brilliant or ridiculous, I can't say. what I like about this picture is that it has a kind of strange everyman quality about it. another good one!
perfect timing to capture him standing next to the light pole.
looks like he's having a bad day... and that day started by erroneously shortening his pants at the ankles with a flame-thrower. but who am i kidding. he still dresses better than i do.
More power to him indeed. I don't like this look, but it is true that the tailored Italian suits are somewhat boring. The picture, by the way, is superb. It reminds one of a profile pic for a Tom Hanks movie. Awesome.
Energie
the jacket is just a regular fit, which therefore makes the pants look silly. i think for it to work the jacket needs to be cut more in keeping with the idea of the pants. also the shoes are too clunky.
I do think, if Edward Hopper was alive and well, and painting.......this woudl be a possible painting.
Well done!
I don't think the photo is current. If you double click the photo, first of all you will see that he is wearing wing tip shoes and secondly --is that a date in the upper left corner on your browser window? If so the photo is from October and there are green leaves on the trees in the background.
There is a Zoolander sequel lurking here.
This is amazing. His cowlick matches his little ankle socks perfectly. And I love the grumpy expression on his face. It says: "I woke up this morning to find my bike was stolen and now I have to walk to work." I've been there.
As a cartoon, or a character in an independent movie, I understand the look. Otherwise, not so interesting.
looks great head to toe
what kind of job does a guy like that have? what kind of company does he work for?
I think he wears the look flawlessly.
I love it! Haven't seen that look on the streets much myself. Distant cousin of David Byrne?
P S This is getting under my skin. I am beginning to evaluate people I see on the street, these days, as to whether I would choose them for a sartoralist blog...always an inspiration!
the pants make him look like a hobo... everything else is great, nice jacket, nice watch (as seems), nice suit case, nice hair cut, nice shoes, good looking guy too. just NOT the pants.
but then again if he didn't wear such pants, he wouldn't be noticed on the street.
This Browne suit may demonstrate humor and whimsy but I am afraid people will laughing at the wearer and not with him.
Not everyone could get away with wearing this to work, but the guy is great-looking, and the jacket fits his body spectacularly! And why *shouldn't* men have the option of wearing cropped pants if they feel like it? Women do it all the time...
I do agree w/ Anon. above that a pair of argyle socks would be perfect here -- though for the people complaining about the *lack* of socks, I think he *is* wearing super-short socks!
And Mr. Sart, love the "Magritte-y" feel of the shot... (-:
Great, I like it!
The suit fits him fine but...too weird... the socks?!
Everything in this image is beautifully neat. I love how there are little hints of everything from his cuff, the collar, his ankles, to the little hankerchief poking out of his top pocket.
An old Italian tailor's motto goes "trousers have to kiss shoes, but not to get married to them". I fear this is the one and only acceptable lenghth of gentleman's trousers.
I totally admire the courage!
To dare is still one of the best ways of changing.
I think if he had a nicer shoe, this look could be transformed, but his shoes make the suit look cheap.
I think this man dressed in the dark. He forgot to put on his socks!
The look is boring but I just had to smile when I saw the opening between his shoes and trousers. it really makes him.
If fashion reflects society, this look certainly does a hell of a job to describe today's idiotic financiancial world. Thom Browne should call it the stock-broker uniform.
I'm surprised at the barrage of negative comments, because I think this look suits him very well (also, that is a very nice briefcase). This guy is very attractive.
While I am not going to run around tearing hair from my head in horror like some of the other posters, I must say that this cropped look does not work for me.
Shorts suit - controversial for some but still, it is a well-rounded look.
By comparison the Thom Browne shortish trouser leg is simply neither here nor there, accidental and not particularly stylish or flattering - this is why it just looks a bit wrong for me every time I see it.
If one really wants to go for that shortish look then I'd go for a skinny leg trews, turned up a tad, with say, a grey ribbed sock or something in a contrasting colour and a nice brogue. Or a Chelsea boot.
Otherwise - the suit is lovely, like the shot and the hair.
Back in the day my junior high students (yes, we are talking the Middle Ages) called these short pants "floods"
Each to their own, however function & form should both get a look in.
I'm one of the last people on earth to wear stuff like this, however, I think I can put aside my opinions on how ridiculous I think a Thom Browne suit looks and appreciate that it was not once intended for conservative types to wear in the boardroom. There are far more ridiculous articles of "fashion" clothing out there, but they aren't a play on such traditional attire (the suit) as Thom Browne's fashion is. Therefore you have tons of critics coming out saying that everything is too short, without analysis from the proper perspective.
He looks like Mr. BEAN in a "thin" version ...
why is this good? He looks like billy bob thorton in sling blade.
You can talk all you want about how "brave" and committed he is to the designer's vision, but he looks as uncomfortable as I feel whenever I see Thom Browne clothing.
he looks very uncomfortable to me. This is not season appropriate at all. His sleeves do not fit him well, and for me it makes the rest of the outfit look messy. Thom Browne is one of my favorites. The masses have now adopted his method of tailoring, and while some are successful, there is always a reminder, such as this, that fashion should be reflective of you as an individual, not personifying the 'cool'
I was reading a previous post, and it was stated this man works for Thom Browne. For the right hand man of Thom Browne, his suit, and tailoring look horrible. Compare him to the way Thom fits in his own suits. There is such an excess of fabric around the wrist. To me, it looks like a self-interpretation of Thom Browne suit, that failed with vital detail.
He looks great. I would prefer if the socks remained below the shoe line for a truly sockless look. It's nice this season that the bare ankle look is being taken further into fall/winter.
The river is low.
The mud is dry.
So why do you wear
your pants to high?
I don't mind the look. He looks sharp, clean, and fashionable.
The suit is cool but that shortness is the pants is distracting me!
I like Thom Browne suits. I always buy them them a size or two larger, though...
No wonder he has that grim look - his ankles are freezing! Form follows function if you have any sense.
Everyone is commenting on the length of the pants but if you are going to do the short pants at least go sockless. There is no place for those kinds of socks when it comes to wearing suits. Save them for the gym.
Schoolboys used to call this look airhose. For subversion, give me a young lady in ladder tights.
There seems to be a lot of conflict on this board. Most people seem to not like the Thom Browne look, while some do. Personally, I think it's silly, but then again so is a lot of "fashion". Style is what you make of it.
But here's the BIG question - what do YOU think of the Thom Browne look, Mr. Sartorialist?
funny to hear the criticisms that he's emulating thom browne too much. he works for thom browne!
I really like the sharpness of the lines and the somewhat harsh aspect of the photo. Nice work.
Looks like Pee Wee Herman doing a New York remake of 'Falling Down'
This look has a magnifying effect on the physical eccentricities of its wearer. If you're slightly nerdy-looking (if that's possible), it'll make you look exponentially nerdier.
The look isn't for me - heck, it's for very few, and even then I'd raise an eyebrow - but fashion needed a break from the wide/skinny tie, boot-cut/skinny jeans and 3-button jacket thing.
Bravo Thom Browne!
some comments are hilarious! Especially the ones with the dutch dykes and the financial crisis! The guy in the pic reminds me of some characters in Danish movies.
Perfectly tailored all the way. This just reminds me of a little kid who's grown and now his pants are too short.
Thom Browne's influence is far reaching...
I love short pants and I cannot lie!
But, for some reason, this is just not working for me. Maybe because his shoes look more like sneakers? So, I guess I'll take him from the briefcase up. Yes.
I honestly love to see a little bit of ankle with a suit. This guy looks on the hunt for a job in the only suit that he could find at the thrift store. The one with the short pants. Nice fit on the jacket and all, but I'm not digging that much leg.
peewee herman
I'm moved by the picture, especially when I put the whole Thom Browne/tailoring/what it cost thing out of my head. What it conjures for me is a Depression era Life cover of a door-to-door salesman with a hang-dog expression as painted by Norman Rockwell. He does not seem to be of this time, though I think in 50 years people will look at this picture as emblematic of this era in a way we just can't see yet.
Thank goodness for Thom Browne, or American men would still be wearing suits too large for them.
Oh wait--they still are.
Dammit.
Glad someone tried to correct it, anyway.
this makes him look so cute lol
very beat. quite the urban gentleman if i may say so myself.
ps- sometimes we must do things "in the name of fashion".
Peter Pan, MBA
I am friends with that boy, so zip it - hes a nice fellow.
Nice shot, interesting look. Suit is well-tailored, I can see that but this look does require more than average attention for the shoes. These are awful, I'm sorry to say.
Hmmm. There is a sort of "Being There" quality to this image.
I'm casting my vote for more interesting socks (argyles, checks in blue and green, stripes in black and grey, etc.) and *much* more interesting shoes (possibly even ankle boots)
If we only knew what is in the briefcase!
i love it!
the too short pants
the slumped stance
the bland expression
the slender suit
even the foregroun bin!
a perfect photograph in my opinion.
Love his style...so Wes Anderson.
The Thom Browne look is risky to say the least. I am an avid fan of a traditional "perfectly" tailored suit. I think the look borders on trendy and can be quite a pricey investment for such a here today gone tomorrow fashion statement
I agree, Thom Browne has had a huge impact on the cut of mens clothes. You can see it in all price points in mens fashion. I think the young man in the photo looks fantastic. The suit is actually hand tailored and is supposed to look back at the styles of the 1950's. Thom Browne is an idiosyncratic designer with a superb eye for design in all aspects and I greatly respect his interest in vintage design. And, actually, Thom Browne clothes are worn by men from all walks of life, the clothes are just twicked to the clients preference. The clothes are incredibly made with the best fabrics.
A fabulous photo of a very silly man.
I'm baffled when people say what they wear reflects their personality. Makes me assume they must be terribly dull.
I saw this man in the recent issue of GQ, not your sartorial article, in the Thom Browne, Designer of the year article! With Thom Browne! Im sure of it, he's behind Thom, second to the left with the brief case!
I honestly enjoy the quirkiness of this look, my parents would kill me if I cut mine this short though ha.
I love that as I scrolled down to look at his outfit, there was a jolt with the briefcase, and then suddenly I saw the surprise hem. Fantastic moment captured. It looks like a print ad.
That's a Thom Browne look if I've ever seen one! Bravo, handsome man.
BLACK SOCKS NEEDED...ASAP
i think this guy just doesn't know how to dress himself. he looks chic by default but i don't think he was trying to.
he looks like the young Jerry Lewis.