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Thursday, July 17, 2008

At Dries Van Noten, Paris

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Blogger The Domina said ... (8:48 AM) : 

I don't like the trousers at all...they make her crotch look long and her legs look stumpy, the rest though is quite put together without being stuffy.


Blogger Carolina Lange said ... (8:55 AM) : 

So elegant!


Blogger Jorge from W Palm Beach said ... (9:23 AM) : 

Van Noten is one of the few designers who manage to keep producing their collections without having to sell their names to the large fashion conglomerates, and therefore can afford to keep their original ideas and actually manufacture them. If you are going to push up your sleeves, I would rather see this cardigan/soft shirt combination than a more formal jacket- by nature more rigid. I am afraid I dont have much to say on the slacks, except, again, if you beat your own drum, you can put your ideas out there. I absolutely love the proportions of the shoes, and, having seen Van Noten's shoes in stores (can't afford them yet!) I know they are of impeccable construction and VERY soft suede. My birthday is coming up... Jorge from W Palm Beach


Anonymous gingerdan said ... (9:30 AM) : 

I find the trousers very unflattering - a bit too much like pyjamas!


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:34 AM) : 

i adore her anodyne expression.


Blogger VIVI said ... (10:16 AM) : 

I miss some heels in this look, it will be better with pumps.


Blogger Rebecca said ... (10:26 AM) : 

Yes the trousers remind me of scrubs.

The sweater/shirt, however, combination is wonderful! I often wear a similar style!


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:02 AM) : 

The proportions throughout here are perfect. I like the largish pants paired with the much more fitted top half. And the pants are just the right length--any longer, and they'd look sloppy.

I remember with great nostalgia how back in the 80's more women dressed this way. I think now it takes some balls (for lack of a better term) to wear such a masculine look without adding heels or something else that is overtly feminine.
Props to her!


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:12 AM) : 

Pretty face, the waist down is not flattering. This is the kind of thing that makes people hate fashion. It's so arbitrary. If she were at your neighborhood garden center, people would think those pants were a disappointment compared the the polished look waist up. But in this context people like it? Come on.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:17 AM) : 

I like it!


Anonymous suzanne nelson said ... (11:25 AM) : 

Love the colours and her beautiful face. The man's watch and signet ring are nice details. This photo proves the old adage that good shoes make an outfit.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:25 AM) : 

I love the top half of the outfit! I could see the bottom half working maybe if she rolled the pant cuffs or something- and put on better shoes. I'm just not really a fan of that pant length- way too much like my high school marching band uniform. Actually, those pants look exactly like the bottom half of that thing- only in black polyester. (shudder)


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:28 AM) : 

A great example of transgender-nerd chic, assertively worn. Bravo!


Blogger style bcn said ... (11:31 AM) : 

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Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:43 AM) : 

Love the top half (would be great with a tight pencil skirt), but the entire bottom half is extremely unflattering. I would have loved to see a flowy cropped white cotton blouse with maybe high heeled sandals instead, but at the end of the day the pants are just too darn big.


Anonymous lintmag said ... (11:44 AM) : 

The outfit would be great except for the socks! I like the contrast of wearing menswear with something much more feminine (heels or sandals), but at least a bit of ankle would make it more summery.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:21 PM) : 

I must say this woman wears this look as well as possible, but those trousers are still really ugly and unflattering. They make her look much shorter and heavier than she really is.


Anonymous angie said ... (12:36 PM) : 

Oh no. Not a good look. The pants are awful.


Blogger pier andrea said ... (12:36 PM) : 

all due respect: what, exactly, is the point here?



Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:48 PM) : 

This blog is like going on vacation for me. Although the city in which I live is a very wealthy one, it has a strong "Stedford Wives" atmosphere. So many women dress alike here that I hardly ever notice what anyone is wearing. Having stated that, I love this look because she is comfortable in it and it is not the "norm". I find her to be an elegant women. I like the way that she has accesorized the outfit, the pinky ring, the necklace, the watch. I would not wear the pants, but I appriciate why she chose them! I mostly love her hair cut. It really shapes her face. I LOVE when a women expresses her individuality through her clothes, to me that is the whole point of fashion. Otherwise everyone should just walk around in a brown sack!


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:56 PM) : 

I often find the fashion depicted here quirky and feel as though, by your noticing it and capturing it in a picture, it looks more "right" than I would think if I saw it on the street.

But in this case, I confess that I don't get it. Not only does this outfit seem odd and ill-fitting, I can't see the artistry and elegance in it.

I would very much like more commentary from you, The Sartorialist, as to what makes the particular look work.


Blogger Maggie May said ... (2:10 PM) : 

waist down its very blase and unflattering. the black/lightblue/black again doesn't work at all.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (2:25 PM) : 

this is great , really ; however, i think it would be better with a different pair of shoes , flats or not i think her feet look too bulky , but otherwise; love the fitted top/ baggy bottom look, & normally i dont go for socks but i think after all this no sock business its time to bring them back


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (2:27 PM) : 

I'm actually not very fond of this look, she looks a bit frumpy to me...


Blogger Laurence John said ... (2:51 PM) : 

to wear trousers that aren't obviously flattering but have an artisan elegance gives her an intellectual coolness.


Blogger SpanishGent said ... (2:52 PM) : 

Stylish but not very flattering.


Blogger K.B. said ... (3:10 PM) : 

Okay, I want that cardigan and blouse.

The pants not so much, but the cardigan is very nice -- I'm trying hard to see the details. (And being a knitter, I'm thinking, "Can I copy that? I need a closer look!")

As for the pants, something tailored would be okay, or something a little loose and drapey, but these just look like they don't fit.


Blogger Miguel said ... (3:19 PM) : 

I love the look, the pose and specially the accesories... oh! that watch and that ring... Great compliments...


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:06 PM) : 

LOVE this... thank you!!!!


Blogger hypoglycemiagirl said ... (5:20 PM) : 

so. hot.


Anonymous Olaf Germany said ... (6:04 PM) : 

You shot her once before. A great style...the intellectual sister of Inès de la Fressange. Her shoes are YSL Mens, I wear them too.


Anonymous vavavinny said ... (6:14 PM) : 

I'm sorry, but I am not loving this overall look. There is something just too ill-fitting and out of place about the pants. From the waist up, she looks fine. The pants and the sweater and peter-pan collared button down are just not the proper accoutrements to such pajama-y trousers. In the end, however, due to the clash, there is something quirkily likable about this woman.


Blogger william said ... (6:15 PM) : 

I like the idea of this but it wasn't executed carefully enough. The pants and shoes make her look sloppy and man like rather than fashionably androgynous.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:16 PM) : 

No, I don't care for this look at all. It just looks strange . . . sorry.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:22 PM) : 

lovely shoes!

and i *do* like those trousers. with the fitted top, they're creating an asymmetry that i'm really enjoying.

as for all the people talking about how unflattering they are, think about other pieces deemed fashionable - sack-like dresses that make women look pregnant or figure-less, and gladiator sandals, which hide ankles and create stumpy legs everywhere. at least this woman looks unique!

good eye!


Blogger Iheartfashion said ... (7:31 PM) : 

It seems dropped-crotch trousers are popping up all over Europe. Wonder how long it will be before they appear widely stateside.


Blogger Sojie said ... (7:39 PM) : 

Don't you just love that pose? Hell YEAH! With attitude like that, who even cares what she's wearing.


Anonymous alice said ... (7:53 PM) : 

Oh, I just love her anodine expression!


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:14 PM) : 

I'm afraid I don't see anything here that is special or atractive. I think the pants just look dumpy.


Anonymous froggy_grow said ... (9:17 PM) : 

Reminds me of that famous Otto Dix portrait of Sylvia von Harden. I love her look . . . and if I saw her at the garden store, as one commented above, I would still admire this look.


Anonymous Je Ne Sais Quoi said ... (9:18 PM) : 

A little boring.


Blogger zuccotto said ... (11:26 PM) : 

Even I, who likes sloppy pants and am not as fashion moment tuned as many, don't get the pants, except as a counterpoint to gang low slungs.. but then, why?

But I'll back off, as I like play re clothes, and this is probably some kind of play.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:10 AM) : 

The pants and shoes are so cool and make the look. Who cares if they are flattering or not?


Blogger designerman said ... (12:32 AM) : 

After all the high heels, floaty fabrics, bright colors - this looks brave and cool.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:39 AM) : 

the crotch is just wayyy too low on those pants for a woman, baggy or not.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (2:00 AM) : 

she looks confident and elegant. Great personality!, although the pants are not the best choice for her.


Anonymous androgynous said ... (2:41 AM) : 

she's got a lean and structured face so visually most will assume she's lean underneath the wide pants anyway. I love the look.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:14 AM) : 

It kinda bothers me that people are breaking her look in halves...but if I must, the top half would look like my first grade teacher if it was not for the bottom half, and the bottom half would look like a clown if it was not fot the top half. Result? Pulled together the 'halves' actually make an impecable look!!! Brilliant.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:34 AM) : 

an outfit that does not leave a doubt, i would say...! i like her consequent androgynous look with the men's signet ring, the men's watch and last not least the cool hair cut. i guess it neither tries nor is intended to be elegant or feminine, but is just a very cool and self-assured look for a seemingly very cool woman.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:38 AM) : 

I agree with laurence john.... she looks terrific -


Anonymous Danielle Sylvie Taylor said ... (6:34 AM) : 

Way too low in general.

Would've looked lovely with baggy but more tailored slacks, or a long skirt.

I can understand going for a WTF factor, as I sometimes do, but in this case it strikes me more as a, 'damn, almost perfect' rather than, 'so unique!' She's trying too hard.


Anonymous victime de la mode said ... (7:17 AM) : 

Very strange...
But interesting character.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:20 AM) : 

She looks great. Love the hair, the stance and the androgynous look. However, not entirely sold on the trousers, might be better with lighter socks possibly? But otherwise fantastic.


Blogger LordGQ said ... (10:04 AM) : 

The top is nice. It's elegant. Problem is the bottom! It looks like a pyjama! It would have been nicer if she wore skinny pants, I think.


Blogger Nina said ... (10:05 AM) : 

She looks a bit like Innes de La Fressange, but with a total diferent style.


Blogger Alice Olive said ... (10:44 AM) : 

Love the deep vee of the sweater and then the buttoned-up white shirt. And of course, her hair. Tousled.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:07 AM) : 

doesn't work for me but more power to her for the confidence.


Anonymous lucia said ... (11:42 AM) : 

Ana.. always so charming!!


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:30 PM) : 

Great, almost Yohji Yamamoto inspired. I had to first open the large version to figure out it was a woman, but precisely this ambiguity makes this look work. The pants are absolutely great. And NO, we DO NOT need heels here. I hate this pseudo-androgynous look of putting together something very stylish, mens-wear inspired, and the spoiling it by putting on ridiculous heels.... this is cool as it is. More women should dare to dress this way!


Blogger CULTURE CREATORS said ... (1:30 PM) : 

Fabulous shot!



Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:07 PM) : 

I'm a day late with this comment, but I just have to say: Try thinking inspiration, rather than criticism: it's more generous. And lateral, not literal: it's more fun! It's amusing to me that people want to divorce the top and bottom halves of this outfit because it's about the relationship between them: the fitted, classic, B&W, ladylike look above the waist is a counterpoint to the unstructured, risk-taking, subtly colored, androgynous look below the waist. If I consider the outfit as a composition I find lots of inspiration here.


Anonymous zose said ... (7:00 PM) : 

oh this is pleasnatly harking back to 80s androgyny, i love the whole thing and her "yeah, what?" kind of look.


Blogger Rollergirl said ... (4:52 AM) : 

Well I like it. It's all about the pose and the courage of her convictions. I'd wear this!


Anonymous Amy said ... (9:58 AM) : 

I hate this. The pants are wrinkle and unflattering and the top is frumpy. The shoes are way too "sensible" too. How is this even remotely chic?


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (7:46 AM) : 

I love this. The pants remind me of the cool tomboy art-school girls I used to know in the late 80s/early 90s. No, I wouldn't call them "flattering" but they are very cool. She blows me away.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:23 AM) : 

I think her pants look awful - I just wonder how long it will be before I love them and find them elegant ! It takes a while for the eye to get used to new proportions.


Blogger Allen - East Hampton said ... (4:11 PM) : 

Great look, hair and photo. Better still if it was pulled together from some vintage finds, and not a pricey run-way ensemble.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:59 AM) : 

I hated this from a distance (those pants!), but when I looked at the closer shot the details got the best of me. The pale pin striping, and beauty of her confidence in wearing a somewhat shocking look really sold me. While I still hate the look of the shoes with the rest of the outfit, I think that the entire look is so uncalculated, and such a strong statement of personal style, which is precisely what this blog is about!


Blogger Jaap van Vliet said ... (2:31 AM) : 

In spite of the trousers she is elegant


Anonymous Laura said ... (12:35 PM) : 

Thank you, Sart, for your approval of this look! A woman who 1) is not a 20-yr old; 2) has short hair; 3) doesn't feel the need to wear her trousers fitted in the common (in every sense of the word) way. A previous post got it dead right- there is a distinctly eastern flair to this look. I am biased, because I dress like this most days, but I find it a refreshing counter to the too-typically western look.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:53 PM) : 

I don't understand the debate about the pants here. They are deliberately fitted loose and low in the crotch, in contrast to the neat sweater/shirt combination, and she looks great.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (7:03 AM) : 

The combination of her woman-hips and the long rise of her man-pants in that color against her dark sweater make her upper half look off scale. She would have been better with slim white pants or maybe a jewel blue shade in a slim cut. Her head and slim arms don't help this shot. Her back end must be voluminous in those things.


Blogger steve said ... (12:07 AM) : 

That IS Ines de la Fressange--isn't it???


Blogger Room4777 said ... (11:15 AM) : 

i love her


Anonymous Kilroy said ... (2:27 AM) : 

There's nothing appealing about this photo. The trousers look like pajamas.


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