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Monday, February 18, 2008

Interesting.....

The Sartorialist June 2007


J. Crew Spring 2008 Preview


I know quite a few people that have worked with Mickey and they all say he has such good taste! (well, this proves it to me)

Maybe Time will extend my "design influencer" status for 2008?

thanks to daily reader Christopher Berre for the heads up!

Comments on "Interesting....."

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:11 PM) : 

Did you consent? Or is it plagiarism! And do you have this kind of foresight at the racetrack? If so, how about a tip.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:15 PM) : 

gotta love how even the pose is very similar!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:29 PM) : 

The color combination the above man is wearing is nothing short of amazing. Bravissimo!

 

Anonymous jojo said ... (6:31 PM) : 

WOW clear case of inspiration.
A tan would make the second gentleman even better!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:45 PM) : 

i think they owe you royalites!

 

Blogger biglakestyle said ... (6:51 PM) : 

Well here on the shores of Lake Michigan it's winter white out season; snow blowing sideways and zero visibilty. But we await the chance to pop out our summer white bucks; but oops no red rubber soles on these. Guidance please fellow readers; do we need bucks with darker soles ?

 

Blogger GQ's Own said ... (7:18 PM) : 

Your art will sustain your influence through the ages Masterful...

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (7:25 PM) : 

unmistakable. but your subject does it better.

 

Blogger Bella07 said ... (7:35 PM) : 

ah!
they both even have that stern look. j.crew's andrea bocelli look alike is wondering where his serious phone call is as well.

 

Blogger BCN fashion tips said ... (7:40 PM) : 

kinda new style. loads in bcn! must come and see it 4 real!

 

Blogger tintin said ... (7:48 PM) : 

There's some great coverage of the red/black sole debate for Bucks in a magazine I recently read. It was in a 1932 issue of Apparel Arts Magazine. Nice to know some things don't change. My vote is for red.

 

Anonymous ama said ... (8:46 PM) : 

Well, there is a certain similarity... But in fact they didn't get it Sart! It was all about the bracelet on his ankle, wasn't it? :))

 

Blogger Carlene said ... (8:47 PM) : 

That's hilarious! But they weaseled out on the anklet, the cowards.

:)

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:49 PM) : 

I love this juxtaposition. The man in your image is more elegant in every way. He is focused on communicating and he sits in such a catlike manner he almost floats, his pants are daringly short and the anklet underlines the purposeful gesture.

In the bottom photo, by contrast, the man looks tired and distracted, the crate is too low for him to sit comfortably there. The clothes don't fit, or match each other, nearly as well as the other guy's. And to think this photo is meant to sell clothes! A resemblance to your image is all this shot has going for it, as far as I can tell...

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:36 PM) : 

who ever was the stylist for that shoot should send you a bouquet of flowers Scott, since your photo inspired him/her.

 

Anonymous ama said ... (9:48 PM) : 

PS.
I forgot: as a new reader I should say 'hello'. And thank you Sart for this wonderful blog, beautiful photos, interesting posts and often - amazing stories hidden behind portraits and scenes. This blog is not only about fashion. It's something more, whether you want it or not ;)

I spent two days patiently poring over the archives. Phew! :). It was worth it.

Wish you all the best.

 

Anonymous John said ... (10:02 PM) : 

Men should stop shaving their legs. Period.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (10:02 PM) : 

Wow, apart from the obvious comparisons, this just highlights the superior quality of your photography. Well shot!

 

Blogger Blaise said ... (11:19 PM) : 

Wow Sart, I feel like this is such an achievement.. :)

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:21 PM) : 

Hilarious! I'm surprised they didn't go the whole hog and throw on the anklet for good measure!

 

Blogger Kanani said ... (12:01 AM) : 

Oh, I love this.
Thanks for the inspiration ...to Mickey and also to me.

 

Blogger fastred1 said ... (1:07 AM) : 

I second anon 10:02...

Your photo and subject are better in every way and they had the advantage of studio lighting, make up and time...

Then again, your guy looks like Dr. House who is always going to beat Mr. Bocelli.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:23 AM) : 

Going sockless can look nothing but affected, and it does on the man J.Crew guy. But it looks totally natural on the Euro fellow.

 

Anonymous Linsey said ... (2:27 AM) : 

Just wanted to tell you, I love this site!

 

Blogger lorrwill said ... (2:37 AM) : 

Seconding that your shot is by far the superiour one.

Also, J. Crew sells to people in the age bracket? I did not know that.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (3:12 AM) : 

When Scott gives somes inspiration to the designers(and me to).
Bravo Scott!

 

Blogger Prêt-à-Porter P said ... (3:13 AM) : 

oh no they didnt!

actually that's pretty cool

 

Anonymous CYOU said ... (4:28 AM) : 

Everything minus the anklet!
Kudos, Sartorialist!!

 

Anonymous psss said ... (5:15 AM) : 

I have to say, your picture is far better. Everything was perfect in the first... It just doesn't work nearly as well on the other guy, and they missed all the key details that made it such a great look... The anklet, the white buttons, dark shoe laces, precise fit of the clothes...

 

Anonymous cathy said ... (7:29 AM) : 

White shoes, no socks & an ankle bracelet?? No! Sorry.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:16 AM) : 

they say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. what would be great is if you find someone on the street dressed like this in a few months, inspired by the j crew ad ;-)

the 6 degrees of separation is shrinking....

haapi

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:48 AM) : 

Despite the sycophantic responses here, I think this post is a presumptuous. Influences are everywhere and this isn't even that similar. You're photographing things long in the air, not creating anew.

Not trying to be rude. I just think the post is tacky.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:54 AM) : 

The man up top looks wonderful. Sit the bottom man on a curb and he would look like a hobo; he is downright messy.

 

Blogger Iheartfashion said ... (9:03 AM) : 

Mickey is clearly a reader: good for you!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:51 AM) : 

hey...maybe someone should acknowledge the inspiration originates from the subject (the original dude's style), and to a lesser degree the photographer. just a thought.

 

Blogger Skyler Chen said ... (9:55 AM) : 

man I just love Mickey

 

Blogger Nick Couch said ... (9:57 AM) : 

What lovely shoes, reminds me of the summer of 88 on the fairways of St. Andrews.

 

Anonymous Gamze said ... (10:07 AM) : 

ah
the jcrew guy is clean but not nearly as clever

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (10:07 AM) : 

Plegarism. 100%.
That is what everyone in the fashion world does now.
They look for street style and they copy it when styling the new looks. Its so so sad. So so sad.
Even more sad that European would never think about going to some site to print out a look from the street to style the collection...This is what happens when style is not in your vains..but in your "swipe"

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (10:19 AM) : 

Maybe Time will extend 'design influencer' to the _subject_ of the first photo.

He did do the hard part, after all. :)

 

OpenID dapperdanger said ... (10:22 AM) : 

looks like dr. house

 

Blogger Parui Paruo said ... (10:23 AM) : 

i agree completely with what others said here... the imitation just can't hold a candle to the original!

 

Blogger Sarah said ... (11:31 AM) : 

oh man, there is no way this is an accident. I hope you feel flattered-- I almost feel indignant on your behalf, like you should get some credit! Your pic is far superior, and I will always look to YOU for inspiration before JCrew.

 

Blogger r.filgueira said ... (11:39 AM) : 

same photo june 2007 - pitti

 

Blogger Donald said ... (11:51 AM) : 

J.Crew makes men's clothes? Oh right, that last 4 pages of the catalog.

 

Anonymous luka from milano said ... (12:49 PM) : 

shoes without socks ?
it doesn't matter what you wear, it's
simply hideous and horrible for a man.

 

Blogger Thomas said ... (12:51 PM) : 

Recognizing what we have known for some time. What is remarkable about this isn't just the outfit, which was chosen by your subject, but how closely the J. Crew image matches yours compositionally.

I have yet to meet a fashion blogger who doesn't check your site daily.

 

Blogger Kanani said ... (12:54 PM) : 

You have your favorite shots, I have mine. I put yours at the top. So much character ...yes, I love this one!

 

Anonymous la sartorialista said ... (1:05 PM) : 

At the risk of sycophancy:
Foto numero uno is much better because of the guy's deep tan and the desperate phone call look! Foto numero due is lame because of the teeny crate and the annoying dude and his trying too hard pocket square.

Obviously a rip off of the Maestro! Who doesn't rip off the Sartorialist and who, might I ask, is not inluenced?

Me, very guilty! Thanks, Maestro!
Uno bacio
La Sartorialista

 

Anonymous Aitch said ... (1:07 PM) : 

Yeah, I agree with the comments about this being a tad sychophantic. It's just white shoes with no socks.

Also to those who thought the top guy looked like Dr. House - get to your eye doctor. I thought it was Frankie Valli.

Aitch

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (2:16 PM) : 

I deal vintage and see designers find inspiration in older pieces and looks all the time but this is just such a blatant copy/compliment all at the same time.

While I feel sorry for the J. Crew customer that is buying into the idea that J. Crew is selling them such an original product and look, I love that they at least had the good sense to copy something from such a fantastic source.

Madeline

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (2:21 PM) : 

For as much as I enjoy Sart's site, all he does is photograph people who have a creative bent for dressing. No one "owes" Sart royalties and no one plagiarized from Sart. It's as much the creativity of the subject Sart photographs that makes this site.

 

Anonymous Fernando Mirelles said ... (3:01 PM) : 

Relax bitches. J.Crew is not an avant garde establishment. I think we can all agree on that. They are trying to sell clothes to middle america. Middle america dresses the way it does. Some people don't like it, some people hate it. J.Crew is doing the best they can to appear more european and stylish. Who can blame them? It's not their fault they are an american company that has to sell clothes to americans.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:03 PM) : 

Got to get a pair of white wingtips for summer. The J. Crew version looks like regular white bucs (boring). I'm even warming up to the Thom Browne sockless look (can't believe it).

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:44 PM) : 

kudos to the man, and kudos to mr. sart. it was the two creative forces coming together that created an image from which to pilfer. had some unknown and less talented blogger deemed this image worthy of posting, who would have been the wiser? don't be so sardonic about mr. sart's part. his consistent talent and dedicated vision is precicely what skyrocketed this other creative fellow's style to muse status.

does ansel adams deserve no credit because nature made it?

 

Blogger Jeremy said ... (6:09 PM) : 

I applaud J.Crew that they can appreciate the standards in style and design you've cultivated on this blog. What's the point of providing your images on the internet if no one benefits from them?

So J.Crew is offering stylish, thought-out, and classic pieces at affordable prices nationwide?

sounds good to me

 

Blogger Mary said ... (6:20 PM) : 

wow. i haven't seen white bucks since the 80's. i actually like them on him.

 

Blogger Girl Spy said ... (10:56 AM) : 

My beef with J. Crew: they have featured this 'older' guy with the grey hair in their catalogue before. However, there is no woman featured in his same 'demographic'? (He looks to be in his late 30's, MAYBE 40s. Maybe). Let's get some older women up in there J. Crew.

 

Blogger ricpic said ... (11:15 AM) : 

Hate the sockless look. Always looks affected.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:59 AM) : 

Your pic is 15000 times better.
The guy you pictured is fierce, the Crew one is bland.

Well, if this "hommage" says something about these Crew guys, is that they definitely missed the point of your brilliant picture.

 

Blogger Sefu said ... (2:55 PM) : 

The top photo is great not only for fashion value, but esthetical value... exposition!

Looking forward to seeing you again this fashion season, Scott - this may be my last.

Take care,

Sefu

 

Blogger tintin said ... (5:24 PM) : 

Maybe the JCrew model is sockless because JCrew's socks are absolute crap. Some of the worse socks ever. And it's a shame because they look great.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:56 PM) : 

You were totally plagirized! However, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:58 PM) : 

This is just the most perfect example of why style is all in the small, small details. (and that je ne sais quoi of the individual). They may have copied you but I think your shot is just so much more "real". I agree it is all about the ankle bracelet and his cool attitude. Number 2 guy just look too professionally styled!

 

Anonymous Simon4rings said ... (8:48 PM) : 

While it's clear that Sart's photo was better, I don't kind he can complain about plagarism, since Scott did not dress the gentlemen, but merely took a photo.

Isn't it funny that a candid street shot looks better than a studio shot?

Still, the photo is one of my favourites and started me on a white nubuck/red sole hunt months ago.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:46 AM) : 

plagiarism. that's how you spell it.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (10:22 AM) : 

I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. J.Crew has been doing the 'sockless' look and polo with jacket look for years. The bucks are nothing new for them either. And nobody's ever seen a model sitting before? They aren't even sitting on similar objects!

 

Blogger Off The Cuff said ... (12:29 AM) : 

Ha! That's great. Make to sure to get an image licensing fee for that one.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:32 PM) : 

and why just today did i see similar white bucks in Off 5th.

 

Anonymous sam drade said ... (11:47 PM) : 

hot oldies*

 

Blogger Darren said ... (11:38 AM) : 

i really enjoy the simplicity with a dash of flare in the anklet and white pocket square.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:42 AM) : 

Well white bucks invariably end up deeply discounted but still wonderful style; plan ahead; buy yours in November.

 

Blogger fad tony said ... (6:48 AM) : 

the 2007 original just ownes the crappy 2008 copy in EVERY WAY! they could've done a lot better!

 

Blogger red said ... (7:45 PM) : 

Thank you very much for this information.

sohbet

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:15 PM) : 

Its cool design and really great to wearing it

Markayi

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:21 AM) : 

Interesting no one recognised the gentlman in the top photo! Jean-Paul Goode,the advertising guru of the 80s, briefly Grace Jones' husband and father of her son. He's the one who designed her dramatic look and hair cut..White bucks were his trade mark..
Xavier

 

Anonymous Mr. XXX said ... (12:11 AM) : 

pocket square is ideal. Makes the outfit culminate nicely.

 

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