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Tuesday, November 20, 2007

"Sportcoat" or "Sportscoat"....little help?

Comments on ""Sportcoat" or "Sportscoat"....little help?"

 

Blogger landis smithers said ... (9:43 AM) : 

technically?

sport coat. two separate words.

 

Anonymous Molly said ... (9:44 AM) : 

I think either would work, but as two separate words (i.e., sport coat or sports coat.)

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:47 AM) : 

According to dictionaries, it can either be the singular one word, "sportcoat" or two words, pluralized, "sports coat."

 

Blogger Kit Halvorsen said ... (9:49 AM) : 

Either sport coat or sprots coat, as supported by the OED.

 

Blogger Steven said ... (9:55 AM) : 

Good question, let me know what you find out!

 

Blogger pearlescent said ... (9:59 AM) : 

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Sportcoat

Hope this helps :)

 

Blogger Night Editor said ... (10:07 AM) : 

Sportcoat, one word.

Love your site, Sart.

 

Blogger Allison said ... (10:07 AM) : 

I've always known it as "sportscoat".

 

Blogger Simone S. said ... (10:11 AM) : 

The colloquial should trump here: Sportscoat.

 

Blogger tobias said ... (10:18 AM) : 

Google fight says 'sportcoat' is the winner

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=sportcoat&word2=sportscoat

 

Anonymous wordy said ... (10:23 AM) : 

The usage of that term is colloquial so "sportcoat", "sportscoat", "sport coat", "sports coat", "sport jacket", "sports jacket" are all correct in some sense. If I were you, I'd call up J. Press and ask someone there what term they use :-)

Apologies if this is a duplicate post!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (10:26 AM) : 

Great question, but the worst thing about it is the people who feel like they have definitive answers when it's really just how people grew up.

 

Anonymous Wren Small said ... (10:40 AM) : 

I've always gone with sport coat, personally.

The word sport is used by different people as sport, even if referring to more than one sport, or sports, even if just referring to sport in general.

I think either is acceptable and whatever comes naturally is best.

 

Blogger Deb said ... (10:42 AM) : 

I'd have to go with sport coat. I think all the old English novels talk about the gentleman wearing sport coats on the fox hunts.

 

Anonymous gak said ... (11:12 AM) : 

"A white sportcoat and a pink carnation... "

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:39 PM) : 

I wonder if this is regional like the soda/pop divide in America or is the utilization choice based on some other cultural demographic of which we are now unaware?

It brings up the question of the relationship of blazer to sport coat. (All blazers are sport coats but not all sport coats are blazers.) It is my understanding that the blazer actually got its name from its participation in the sport of rowing- or maybe just boating. I think the Cambridge Lady Margaret Boat Club rowers were outfitted in "blazing" red coats.

Anyway, based on the usage range posted so far, I suspect there is not a definitive answer unless someone wants to contact Wm. Safire and see if he is willing to venture into the fray!

 

Blogger CurlyHairDay said ... (12:46 PM) : 

Sportcoat!

 

Blogger Elizabeth said ... (12:47 PM) : 

J. Press online says Sport Coats

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:55 PM) : 

"odd jacket"

 

Anonymous oldog/oldtrix said ... (1:46 PM) : 

"Odd jacket." In the early days of the lounge suit (the modern business suit), men often paired the jacket of their navy blue serge suits with white or gray flannel trousers to wear for casual occasions such as at a resort on vacation or to view spectator sports. Later, separate jackets, made up in fabrics (e.g., bold tweeds and bright colors) and/or with details (e.g., pleated and belted backs, patch and bellows pockets) not acceptable for business wear, began to be worn in such casual settings. The jackets were called "odd" because they did not have matching trousers to make up a suit. Because they were often worn to sporting events, they came to be called "sport" or "sports" coats or jackets. "Odd jacket" covers all permutations; however, I suppose that when I ask any employee under 50 at the typical men's retail establishment to view the odd jackets, it is I that am viewed as odd. I do it anyway as I rarely wear such jackets to any sporting events, having sold off the polo ponies and the thoroughbreds.

 

Blogger Jayce B. said ... (1:51 PM) : 

Luckily, "Google" is a verb.

 

Blogger Jayce B. said ... (1:57 PM) : 

PS... my vote goes for "blazer" because seriously does anyone care about "nautical origins" anymore?

 

Anonymous beandiva said ... (4:24 PM) : 

I grew up in the South and always heard "sport coat". Of course, I always heard "Walmart's" too...But not from the same people!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:49 PM) : 

"sport coat" or "sports coat"

Most people are searching for those online. Forget the traditional dictionary for a minute (and this from a trained journalist). In order...

sport coat
sports coat
sportcoat
sportscoat

...where "sport coat" beats "sportcoat" with more than twice as many searches daily.

So, tell us all about that "sport coat" you fancy - or all of your "sports coats" - Sart!

Both your loyal readers, as well as some new ones that pick up on the term, will be interested in hearing what you have to say.

mltt

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:46 PM) : 

In Ohio it's clearly

Sportcoat

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:53 PM) : 

sport coat
odd jacket
blazer

i would admonish using the term "jacket." Traditionally on Savile Row, such garments are known as coats only.

Cheers

 

Blogger maxine said ... (5:16 AM) : 

sportscoat without a shadow of a doubt! in melbourne, anyway. but doesn't it roll off the tongue so much smoother than sportcoat?

 

Blogger Magdalen said ... (9:11 AM) : 

Re: oldog/oldtrix your comment makes me wonder whether the etymology of "sport coat" might not come from the other meaning of "sport" - something surprising and out of the ordinary, odd. Usually you see this meaning of sport in biology/genetics.

I personally say "sports coat", but I suspect it's just a regional thing. Americans tend to talk about "sports" as a group of activities, and English people tend to talk about "sport".

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:57 AM) : 

In the same sense that classic roadster is sports car is not a sport car, a blazer is a sports coat not a sport coat.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:51 PM) : 

In Australia we say "Sports Coat"... like sports car

 

Blogger Andrew said ... (2:22 AM) : 

Sportscoat is what I grew up with here in Texas... It just sounds better when said aloud.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:27 AM) : 

As a philologist, I consider that the correct one is sportscoat.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:54 PM) : 

I believe that blazers were named after the jackets worn by the crew on HMS Blazer for a visit by Queen Victoria. Like many other items of naval uniform, they leaked into the mainstream and are now considered very smart and not practical clothing. A sports coat (any variation) is from the shooting-type jacket - tweed with pockets. I got this from some mess dress regulations from the RAF.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:25 AM) : 

The Italians say "jacket". Sportcoat is an American terminology, and is incorrect.
You should adopt this change. It is a jacket and nothing but.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:51 PM) : 

Linguistically this is a very interesting discussion! If (and I believe this is so) the original form of the compound is 'Sportcoat', then it would be very logical for the form 'sportscoat' to appear. The consonant sequence 'tc' is not allowed, so the 's' is interjected to make it more salient. And as with all things in Language, as long as both are being used in everyday speech, and everyone knows what you mean, both are acceptable.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:42 AM) : 

Someone just go ahead and ask master Billy Safire already. . .

 

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