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Monday, September 25, 2006

On the Street....... Grey Suit, London

Savile Row would be fine if it made more suits like this.

Comments on "On the Street....... Grey Suit, London"

 

Anonymous ben said ... (4:27 AM) : 

I disagree - it looks really bady cut - the zip on the fly is exposed and pulling and the vest is too small it pulls across her chest - if saville row made suits that fitted like this they would never have got where they are in the first place. I think tradtions and craftmenship like those practiced on the row should be protected, i dont think the move in this street by the likes of A&F is progress

 

Blogger The Sartorialist said ... (4:51 AM) : 

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Blogger The Sartorialist said ... (4:53 AM) : 

dude I was kidding!!

besides someone made a very good point in the other post - Savile Row is a destination, people don't window shop and all of a sudden decide to drop in and by a suit, not like they would a pair of shorts.

Actually I'm surprised to hear so many people jump to the defense of a tradition that ,for the most part, will only benefit old, rich white guys.

Which is worse?
Moving "the row" or opening the row to tailors from other countries like Rubinacci or Borrelli or even Thom Browne- oh, i know i didn't just type that!!!!!!

4:51 AM

 

Blogger fashmoda said ... (5:37 AM) : 

Great look ... I like the watch, a detail that rocks.

 

Blogger lauracrow said ... (7:06 AM) : 

you know, she sort of looks like a healthy kate bosworth. she's quite lovely...even if the suit could fit a little better.

 

Blogger Kelli said ... (9:37 AM) : 

This is unfortunate because if this was better quality fabric & tailoring to fit her curves, her look would be adorable in a 70s news journalist kind of way. Instead, it just looks itchy and uncomfortable.

Hope you are having a great time on your travels! cheers.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:55 AM) : 

too. much. grey. really unpleasant on my eyes. :( sorry

 

Blogger Tamberk said ... (10:17 AM) : 

Definitely a (Ralph) Lauren Lady!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (10:43 AM) : 

"kidding"?? Why did you post the picture then? I like the idea of the look but agree with ben, the fit on the pants is pretty bad and looks uncomfortable. I would have expected you to write as much in your comment.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (10:55 AM) : 

No offense to the woman, but maybe she just got fat. This suit could've fit well a few months, or years, ago.

 

Blogger Rafe said ... (11:03 AM) : 

I think women in men's suits look humid. I would have prefered something under her vest but it looked like a hot day. Where's her bag?

 

Anonymous Irish Eyes said ... (11:42 AM) : 

The row is wonderful - but here's the thing - Sart is 100% on the money here. If anyone read Tom Junod's article last year in Esquire on the last tailors in NYC, then you'll not only have a sad heart, you'll also know that things need to change a little. That means the row - unless it wants to become a museum - needs to start welcoming in those who might help it adapt. It's currently over-priced and snobby. It needs to have more younger members and cut some prices - whilst retaining what needs to be retained. Some are already trying - they know who they are - others haven't bothered their shirt tail (pun intended). So Scott... I couldn't agree more. Bravo!

 

Blogger Maria said ... (11:46 AM) : 

She is cute! but her dress is kind of plain. Besides the sunglasses and her smile nothing seems fun here. SO: a great smile can win over the whole thing.

 

Blogger Thebodytalk said ... (12:54 PM) : 

I have have intention to get one vest suit like that for a while. But I don't know what's keeping me from going out and getting one. Maybe I am too busy to go shopping. Now I have to get out and go shopping for a vest suit. Love the overall look. Thanks for a great post, Sart!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:13 PM) : 

Greetings humans! We have neither a sun nor a sense of proportion on my home planet.:)

She's pretty, and I like the suit. But eek the gigantic sunglasses on such a small woman. They make her head look miniature almost.

 

Anonymous positively the same dame said ... (1:21 PM) : 

i don't mean to be crass, but looking at this is making me itch...and sweat. i wonder if she's as uncomfortable in this suit as i feel just seeing her in it. perhaps the best thing about it is how great it would feel to take it off?

 

Blogger Butch said ... (1:27 PM) : 

Well, Scott, the SR tradition's not one that JUST benefits old rich white guys; it upholds (when it does) certain standards of style and manufacture that are constantly threatened--standards that are worth having in the world....

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:36 PM) : 

I think that it's a great look .... sexy , sophisticated and exciting

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:49 PM) : 

Great potential, less than great execution. If the cut was good, this would be a stunning look on a stunning woman.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (2:54 PM) : 

Her suit would benefit from Savile Row tailoring for sure but a canvas sack would probably look good on her.

In defense of Savile Row and custom tailoring; I am not an old rich white guy, and I have my suits made by a Savile Row tailor. I do this for a number of reasons but mostly because I want the details of the suit and the fit to be perfect.

I am an architect and I am particular about the construction and details of my suits. I find that off the rack does not measure up, pun intended.

We need look no further than the Sartorialist's earlier posts regarding the purchase of his own Ralph Lauren suit to understand what I mean. To his credit the Sartorialist has very specific ideas about fit and finish; side tabs, roll through the top button, lapel width, sleeve length, etc... The number of alterations required to his suit and the price made me wonder why he would not just have it made custom. Fabric, cut, details and high quality to boot...I get it all from Savile Row, the suit will last me for 10 years minimum, and it is not significantly more expensive than what the Ralph Lauren suit cost.

The real question I believe comes down to style vs. fashion. Style lasts, fashion is ever-changing. Note that this blog reveres Carey Grant's style in "North by Northwest", a movie made in 1959, and who had his suits made on...you guessed it, Savile Row. Style lasts and SR has provided high quality goods and service for a very long time. I think everyone who reads this blog is in favor of that. Sadly the old firms are being pushed out by Abercrombie and Fitch, Armani, and other Johnny-come-latelies fashionistas who hope to cash in on the Savile Row reputation.
Quality and Service play in any market and Savile Row need to adjust their business model. They no longer need to be located in Mayfair because the customers are now in fact everywhere, not just London's West End.

Should the real estate market force the venerable SR firms elsewhere that would be a shame but let us all hope that the quality and craftsmanship remain as vital as ever.

 

Anonymous concupiscence said ... (3:33 PM) : 

Haha! This style is a bit like giving a nod and two fingers to tradition. She carries herself well.

 

Blogger hoi polloi said ... (3:54 PM) : 

Meow! the comments here are really harsh today. I think she looks good and classy. She's not wearing leggings, flip flops, or jeans and ballet flats, or even [UGH] a trapeze dress. Nice to see a YOUNG lady with some unexpected, classic style

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:16 PM) : 

this look is wonderful ,stylish , uplifting and glorious ..... your critics need to have a little more coffee in the morning .... or in London , tea

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:17 PM) : 

this look is wonderful ,stylish , uplifting and glorious ..... your critics need to have a little more coffee in the morning .... or in London , tea

 

Blogger EMNH said ... (5:23 PM) : 

Oh Please...she looks great. I think the fact that the suit isn't cut within an inch of her life makes her look sexier. Maybe she just had lunch and the zipper gave a bit.

I think the whole point is that you see the woman more than the suit. I would wear this.

Also, when I think of Savile Row I invariably always think of Withnail's rant to Danny in the movie "Withnail and I".

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:14 PM) : 

She looks great and I agree that if Saville Row were equated with 'hot yet classy' it would benefit immensely.

 

Blogger Zaydoun said ... (6:54 PM) : 

A&F is more suited to Regent Street than Burlington Gardens/Savile Row. What the hell were they thinking?

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (6:59 PM) : 

i will buy the facbric in england and go to naples to have it tailored.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (7:03 PM) : 

was this taken near les deux maggots on saint germain des pres?

 

Blogger Rafe said ... (7:40 PM) : 

I actually meant to say I think women in men's suits look hot and that it looked like a humid day hence the vest without the shirt.

 

Blogger Gemstone said ... (10:42 PM) : 

She has the quality of a young Ann-Margaret -- in the tradition of glamorous and fresh young women looking sexy wearing men's clothes.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (2:20 PM) : 

great pic and great look...
It's very exciting to see such adventure and Sartorial splendor ..... bravo Sart

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (2:36 PM) : 

Wow. I think she looks absolutely fabulous. The contrast between the "proper" nature of a three-piece suit and the sensual quality of the bare arms and shoulders under the vest is captivating.

Like a lot of my favorite pictures on this blog, it makes me wonder what is the story behind the outfit...

 

Anonymous positively the same dame said ... (3:10 PM) : 

i think menswear on women is one of the best looks there is -- garbo, dietrich, hepburn, ysl "le smoking" and on and on -- but it has to fit well to look good. this is a lovely woman but the suit doesn't fit properly and the tailoring is off. compare this suit to sart's woman in white at the nyc shows as a case in point. she has good instincts, and she's so pretty she couldn't ever look truly bad, but the execution could use some tweaking.

 

Blogger EnidP said ... (12:31 PM) : 

The vest is great...

Enid P.

 

Anonymous leticia said ... (1:44 AM) : 

hmmmm it does not sit properly - bad fit? bad cut?

it doesn't do her justice. look at that gorgeous face, she needs something other than that.

 

Anonymous Magsli said ... (2:58 PM) : 

Looks a little tight and i can't say i love it.

 

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